Obsessed Fan. Gogeta multiplier 1000 and Vegetto 14000 ? Who cares. ^ Well hurcule is weaker than Tien and Goku had a thought of fusing with him as well so that doesnt mean anything. We see him beating down super buu almost no prob. SO long story short. The only reason he didn't triumph in the fight is because goku lost his focus when he got cut from the blade janemba was wielding. This gives me plenty reason to believe that Potara fusion is different with the Kais. and there are infinate outcomes of this battle say gogeta could have finished with a stardust breaker and vegito dodged it then beam sword slashed him or gogetas stardust did hit him you can really have no winner to an equal battle. We don't know if Vegito can do it, however, and I don't think we should just assume that he can. That leads me to believe that super vegito was aroud the power of a super saiyan 4. Like a lot of people said...They are equal. Also, goten/trunks seamed to be around android saga goku vegeta by how they were able to fight with no.18. EVER EVER GOING TO GET TO THE CONCLUSION!!!!!! If Gogeta can go SSJ3 and Vegito can't, then my money is on Gogeta. So please let me end this sh***t once and for all and call it a. They could both possibly taste awsome. I really dont give a crap about Old Kai. But Gogeta wins. But if you have a fictional question, you need a fictional answer, right? Gingka: Fusions are insanely strong! That means the base fusion is stronger than the max power levels of each person. Potara fusion is different with the Kais, and we have no evidence to suggest what the difference, if there is any, is between the respective power levels of Supreme Kai and Kibito. If he really needed to, he could've finished Buu (with Goha, Piccolo, Trunks, and Goten) in his base form. It's is more a question of practicality, it would be better to be Vegito if the oppenent was strong enough to require Goku and Vegeta to fuse, because the Potara Fusion will not run out leaving them with no restraints. The main point being, at this point Janemba is as strong as FAT buu and Goku is a little stronger than FAT buu. I mean, just look at both. If we based Vegito … Due to the stress of which women to live with, they would go crazy and won't be able to fight. Janembeais weaker than kid buu. He can separate after 30 mins no problem. That would cause Gogeta and Vegito to be even. Also, just a tip, to the guy above me, it's 'Extremely', not "EXTREMATELY". NCONR3 FC-0002-3637-9306 MMSF2 FC-2021011677 Platinum FC-0732-5213-2136 MMSF3 FC- 064666586145 Vegito is stronger due to the fact that the fusion is with the potara earings, they give him more power. but if gogeta could go ssj4 it is very possible for vegito to turn ssj4 leaving that battle to vegito due to gogetas 10 minute timeline. Gogeta SSJ4 was demolishing Omega Shneron without even trying. Gingka: Gogeta, the Metamoran Fusion of Goku and Vegeta! I'm not saying "it's a draw because they would fight forever", im saying there is no result due to the inconsistency of the films and mangas with the personality, power and fighting ability of the characters and because we are never, ever, ever, ever. vegito has to last for ever and goku and vegeta can transform into gogeta when ever they want. COULDNT DEAL DAMAGE. Since I got on the topic of asking about Vegito vs Gogeta, why not Kefla vs Vegito? For principle, let's say Goku's power level is 100 and Vegeta's is 75. We will only compare from the dragon ball "Z" universe. It's a fake interview, if I recall. (Im tired so this is as musch info as i could summon at the moment). The Elder(Old) Kai says "Of course I'm sure. All he said was that it was better, and better doesn't mean stronger. why did they use gogeta. there just wasnt enough evidence to get a better measurement. now if it was ssj4 gogeta then vegito ssj1 then ofcourse he would win he is said to be the ultimate (known) charecter. And btw, why people keep using their personalities as an argument? There's also another official ruling on something that many fans have been debating for years: who would win in a fight between Gogeta and Vegito! 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Thus, it is a true article, with fiction in the fiction, which was allowed by the meaning of this article which is fictional. ?Ultimatessj1 (talk) 15:32, February 26, 2014 (UTC)UltimateSSJ1, DUH VEGITO FTW GOGETA SUCKS Life and death is a trick of the mind 13:25, February 25, 2012 (UTC), Vegito. thus making buuhan and boosting his power to roughly 6.5x goku ss3. Sorry children. SuperGogeta91 (talk) 21:28, July 28, 2012 (UTC). Secondly, we're pretty much not including the time limit here because that's not a true test of strength; that's wait half an hour for him to defuse. As this Dragon Ball fusion breakdown reveals, there is a pretty clear separation of powers between the Fusion Dance that creates Gogeta, and the Potara earrings that create Vegito: The Fusion … So SSJ4 Gogeta in GT was about 256 Billion. That clears the 1 hit KO moves. [19]'''TheDragonThatHasLongSinceForgottenHisName [20] 21:27, October 20, 2011 (UTC), Neither is stronger than the other. How about Vegito, typical Vegeta playing with his prey or Goku's happy nature and love for the toughest battles? Any way you look at it theres no real indication on who would win. he said the "effect of potara is greater than with fusion". Also, Vegito and Gogeta are playful only to enemies that are much weaker than them. Those are 3 reasons. That clears the super buuhan = Janemba. Gogeta would diffuse. Vegeta, on other hand, was around 30 millions. It's established in Dragon Ball Z that Potara fusion lasts forever, but this is retconned by Dragon Ball Super which reveals that it actually only lasts for an hour when the earrings are worn by mortals. Gogeta (SSJ) seen stronger than Vegito (SSJ) based on their fights, but numerous comments put Vegito on advantage, although the word "stronger" was never mentioned. So this comes down to CANON vs NONCANON. Only an idiot would say their equal. But it is all soley based on Vegeta being weaker than Goku at the time of fusion.Ultimatessj1 (talk) 15:32, February 26, 2014 (UTC)UltimateSSJ1. ANd on a side note. Add them together and multiply by 2 and that gives you a base Gogeta in GT at 64 Million. Gogeta is fully dead, Vegito is only half dead. Shakuran13 01:55, August 8, 2011 (UTC), IMO the only reason Gogeta killed Janemba so fast is to finish off the movie to fit into a 1 hour time slot. Toriyama didn't create Vegetto to surpass Gogeta. ^ That interview is from Super Otakuo Magazine, is it not? So, in MY OPINION, Vegito is better. Now, we will use 10 as Goku and Vegeta's base power level. his strength could go much much much higher, and we would never know. Goku SSJ4 could handle Vegito, flawlessly. Really we can speculate as much as we want about which character did what and what moves may give the edge an this an that, but in the end there won't ever be a battle between the two (sweet if there was) and lets just agree that both are kick ass fusion warriors that possibly cannot be beaten. The fusion dance is also very impractical, having to A: Dance, B: Having to dance in perfect symetry and sync, and C: It only lasts for a half hour or so. Godzilla3000 00:35, May 25, 2012 (UTC), goku figured ss1 gotenks could take out majin buu (enough so he left the fate of the world in their hands), ss3 gotenks + super buu + piccolo = slightly stronger than gohan, so that puts gohan at super buu x2, which makes buuhan: super buu + gohan (x3 super buu's base, since buutenks would be x2.1). We're using fiction right now because we actually made fiction inside fiction because of Elder Kai giving Goku and Vegeta his earrings so the battle can happen. there are many different ways to interpret the power of fusion and of the transformations, but the most reasonable, imo, put goten and trunks (post) even with goku. Sort by. When it wears out, Vegito, Vegeta, and Goku would take a break, maybe go have some lunch, then Vegeta and Goku fuses to Gogeta again and they start fighting again, and the cycle begins again. if speaking buu had no regeneration power, he would not have lasted the base form vegito final kamehameha that blew half of him apart. We are trying to find out who is the strongest, not who will last the longest in battle. QueenSaiyajin. Since x10 base would = a x10 boost to any ss stage, this makes it a pretty big difference. As this Dragon Ball fusion breakdown reveals, there is a pretty clear separation of powers between the Fusion Dance that creates Gogeta, and the Potara earrings that create Vegito: As stated then, the issue isn't just one of the usual Dragon Ball power level number comparisons: it's about time vs power. That means that even though Goku and Vegeta were SSJ4 in GT, they fused into SSJ4 Gogeta because Gogeta went straight to his max form. Dragon Ball Super: Broly's official introduction of Gogeta into canon has fans once again discussing the pros and cons of Dragon Ball's fusion methods. [11] Shakuran13 [12] Perish. While on the surface the two appear to be on equal footing, Gogeta is superior to Vegito for one very simple reason: Vegito has a power limit. What makes you say that?Do you have any proof whatsoever that Gogeta doesnt stand a chance against Buu?K1lp1k0nna (talk) 11:07, December 1, 2012 (UTC)K1lp1k0nna, 4) And  vegetio is way stronger as seen in the show when sumpreme kai says the potara effect is more powerful than the fusion dance and even if we took out time limits vegetio is still stronger, Potaras effect is the fusion.Therefore when the Potaras effect is stronger,it means the fact that there is no time limit to the Potara fusion.K1lp1k0nna (talk) 11:07, December 1, 2012 (UTC)K1lp1k0nna. He once commented to me, saying Mystic Gohan is stronger then SSJ3 Gogeta. If you think otherwise you're clearly bias. Majin buu in this case can only mean fat buu. Therefore, if it is a short match of thirty minutes or less, then Gogeta should win, while if it is a long battle, then Vegetto should win!!". Giving Vegito a pretty fair advantage over Gogeta. Copyright 2020 ComicBook.com. That means that if Vegeta had the SSJ3 ability, then Gogeta and Vegito would be equal aside from the 30 minute time limit. and therefore vegetto wins. The one most impossible to believe was SSJ3 Gogeta being weaker than SSJ Vegito. Personally though, I believe Gogeta doesn't have it, mainly because Gogeta was created before the concept of the rival's boost - Toei wouldn't really know about it. If you are reading this you are probably thinking, "but they are being compared through the website". QUOTE OF THE WEEK: "The best lie is the one that is tightly wrapped around a grain of truth. Vegito would be many times stronger than Shenron's, and Gogeta ss4, recognising that trait would be serious. Even as SSJ, they would have the same power level. In the movie,Gogeta took no time at all playing around and instantly defeated Janemba. Yet, these two characters have many differences, and let us discuss some of them here. But, nothing says he doesn't get it, I just think he doesn't. 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